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Leather/Glass water container.

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:50 am
by Grimble Grumble
I made this canteen last summer. It consists of a glass tequila bottle with cork that i covered tightly in tanned deerhide.

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Re: Leather/Glass water container.

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:37 am
by Ringulf
Very nice I have a large ceramic or earthenware I guess you could call it and it has the wire and ceramic "Pop Top" I know those tops are not particularly period, but I allow my dwarf a few liberties as long as the materials are period, owing to dwarven inovation. I had to replace the rubber gasket with a leather one but the rest is pretty cool. :mrgreen:

Re: Leather/Glass water container.

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:41 am
by Grimble Grumble
Haha, I use a similar excuse for my use of titanium tent stakes and pot, Ringulf. I consider it of elven or Numenorean work.

Re: Leather/Glass water container.

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:40 am
by Manveruon
Love this! I've been considering doing something similar myself for quite some time, but I've been having difficulty knowing where to begin. May I ask how you judged the size and shape of the leather so as to make it fit so snugly? And then how you went about actually stitching it onto the bottle?

Re: Leather/Glass water container.

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:09 pm
by Peter Remling
Great looking canteen.

Re: Leather/Glass water container.

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:48 pm
by Grimble Grumble
I used oversized pieces and started stitching in the middle. I stitched both sides at the same time keeping it tight the whole time. The bottom piece was done last. Then I trimmed off all of the excess.

Re: Leather/Glass water container.

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:11 am
by Manveruon
Interesting... So how did you hold the leather in place while you were sewing it on? And did you wet the leather first?

Re: Leather/Glass water container.

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:57 pm
by Grimble Grumble
No wetting involved. Simply make a couple stitches on one side and place it over the bottle. Holding it tight, make a couple stitches on the other side. Continue this process alternating on each side to maintain an even tautness.

Re: Leather/Glass water container.

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:03 am
by Manveruon
Awesome! Thanks for the tips! Totally going to try this!

Re: Leather/Glass water container.

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:33 am
by Le-Loup
Well done Grimble, looking good. I have been thinking of attempting the same thing. In every society & age, bottles have always been reused. This is certainly a worthwhile project.
Regards, Keith.

Re: Leather/Glass water container.

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 5:42 pm
by deadextra
Here is something related I found in the last few days, an early medieval water bottle dug out of a bog in Ireland. I'm not sure if there is a frame or anything on the inside, the flat shape of one side seems a bit odd for the sand filled method, but then again it's been buried in a bog since maybe the 12th century.

http://photo.qip.ru/users/vlasta/2133981/

Information is a bit sparse, but it seems to be about 40 centimeters in diameter.

Re: Leather/Glass water container.

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:16 pm
by Fox
Great find! I wish I could see how the spout was assembled. One thing I've noticed, time after time, is that surviving artifacts seem to be highly decorated. Our ancestors took a lot of pride in their work!

Re: Leather/Glass water container.

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 2:50 pm
by Greg
deadextra wrote:I'm not sure if there is a frame or anything on the inside, the flat shape of one side seems a bit odd for the sand filled method, but then again it's been buried in a bog since maybe the 12th century.
Other than the bog explanation, the only other thing I can think of is that some bottles were stuffed while inside a wood mould/frame for consistency. Could've been shaped that way.

Re: Leather/Glass water container.

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:45 am
by Odigan
Greg wrote:
deadextra wrote:I'm not sure if there is a frame or anything on the inside, the flat shape of one side seems a bit odd for the sand filled method, but then again it's been buried in a bog since maybe the 12th century.
Other than the bog explanation, the only other thing I can think of is that some bottles were stuffed while inside a wood mould/frame for consistency. Could've been shaped that way.
Looks like it falls under the category of "flacket."

http://leatherworkingreverend.wordpress ... er-bottle/

Re: Leather/Glass water container.

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:42 pm
by Greg
Odigan wrote:
Greg wrote:
deadextra wrote:I'm not sure if there is a frame or anything on the inside, the flat shape of one side seems a bit odd for the sand filled method, but then again it's been buried in a bog since maybe the 12th century.
Other than the bog explanation, the only other thing I can think of is that some bottles were stuffed while inside a wood mould/frame for consistency. Could've been shaped that way.
Looks like it falls under the category of "flacket."

http://leatherworkingreverend.wordpress ... er-bottle/
Indeed it does.