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Re: The Sword Beneath the Cloak (Odigan work)

Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 11:43 pm
by Loneken
Apologies for resurrecting an old thread, but I came across this and I find this ranger sword outstanding! Exactly how I would envision a ranger sword in fact.. I happened to have just acquired a Windlass Type XIV so I'm looking into a similar conversion, this is great inspiration.

Was there any work done on the blade itself in terms of weight or finish?

Thanks!

Re: The Sword Beneath the Cloak (Odigan work)

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 12:53 am
by Elleth
That would be a question for Odigan, who (in the event he doesn't see this thread) can be reached via facebook at:
https://www.facebook.com/Meuleurgy/

It's absolutely a heck of a lot sharper than it was from the factory, but I don't know what else he's done to it.

Re: The Sword Beneath the Cloak (Odigan work)

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 6:51 pm
by Elleth
..... and WOOOO! After way too long, I can finally get this thing out in the forest!

I started a new job not long ago, and was able to splurge on a proper scabbard -
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The Saxon-style covered bridge was... I won't say an impulse decision exactly, but just a vague gut sense rooted in the same early-medieval aesthetic that informed the hilting. I don't know yet exactly how I'm going to lace the thing onto a belt - any suggestions?

Re: The Sword Beneath the Cloak (Odigan work)

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:24 pm
by ForgeCorvus

Re: The Sword Beneath the Cloak (Odigan work)

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 12:55 am
by Eofor
Lovely simple elegance Elleth.

Belt or baldric? Fixed or removable?

Re: The Sword Beneath the Cloak (Odigan work)

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:50 am
by Iodo
That looks lovely :P

Re: The Sword Beneath the Cloak (Odigan work)

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 12:16 pm
by Elleth
Thank you!

... the video is helpful, and youTube thankfully suggested another Tod Cutler video of belt wrapping, so that's a good start.

Eofor - I'm thinking belt rather than baldric, just to cut down on the number of shoulder straps - though it would be nice if it was long enough to just throw over the shoulder in a hurry (shades of the Bayeaux archer there!)
I do think fixed to the strap rather than (easily) removable. Certainly no fancy hardware, just leather knotting of some kind I think. I could imagine just threading a belt through the bridge, around the body, and back through the bridge again, which would be nice and simple. On the other hand a bit of strap braiding might be enough for the familiar-yet-not-quite-historical vibe that makes a lot of our stuff sing. So I don't know.

Re: The Sword Beneath the Cloak (Odigan work)

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:57 pm
by Greg
Lovely...turned out very nice!

You might just take a belt you already have, for starters, and try passing it through the bridge, around the scabbard, and back through again. The added friction of the double wrap/X-over may hold it pretty firmly in place from the get-go. Can't hurt to try, and you don't have to waste anything in trying it out.

Edit: Clearly I didn't read your last response...

Re: The Sword Beneath the Cloak (Odigan work)

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:38 pm
by Taylor Steiner
Looks great Elleth!

Re: The Sword Beneath the Cloak (Odigan work)

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 12:13 pm
by Eofor
Elleth wrote: Wed Aug 10, 2022 12:16 pm Certainly no fancy hardware, just leather knotting of some kind I think. I could imagine just threading a belt through the bridge, around the body, and back through the bridge again, which would be nice and simple. On the other hand a bit of strap braiding might be enough for the familiar-yet-not-quite-historical vibe that makes a lot of our stuff sing. So I don't know.
I wouldn't over complicate it then and just trial it with the simple method you described above. If that doesn't work or you have too much movement then perhaps a tail strap may work. Likewise Abb. 5 in the PDF above would let you do some organic decorative scabbard bosses - bone or antler domes engraved with stars would look rather amazing.
https://www.academia.edu/18468185/AK_4_ ... wk0L7N4a7s

Re: The Sword Beneath the Cloak (Odigan work)

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 12:57 pm
by Elleth
Hrm... I couldn't get a belt to fit, but I got some of the leather left over from making pack straps to work -
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Knotting it on it feels decent enough. Walp, I've got a good enough answer for now. To the woods! :mrgreen:

Re: The Sword Beneath the Cloak (Odigan work)

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2022 2:15 am
by Greg
That's actually REALLY cool looking!

Re: The Sword Beneath the Cloak (Odigan work)

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 3:06 am
by Manveruon
Absolutely loving this! I never got the chance to comment on the original sword post because I think I was in one of my off-the-forum bouts, but it’s just absolutely STUNNING, and this seems like a great system!
Also, I very much appreciate this comment in particular:
Elleth wrote: Wed Aug 10, 2022 12:16 pm On the other hand a bit of strap braiding might be enough for the familiar-yet-not-quite-historical vibe that makes a lot of our stuff sing.

Re: The Sword Beneath the Cloak (Odigan work)

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:24 pm
by Cimrandir
So I'm just now getting around to actually commenting on this but wow, Elleth, your sword is incredible. It's a real beauty and frankly, a real inspiration for me. The line "This feels like a brawler's weapon - not something intended for deeds of song on a bright sunlit battle plain, but rather for the chaotic frenzy under dark trees when fell things draw close" is so perfect and sums up so much of a Ranger beyond their sword. I hadn't intended on Cimrandir having a sword but dangit, now I want one. The blending of different time-periods in the hardware is excellently done so kudos to Odigan! That sheath is a real beauty as well. Altogether, it's probably one of my favorite "artifacts" that's come out of this forum.

Honestly, I'm probably going to draw a lot from this sword whenever I have the time and money to get one of my own. I'm currently thinking an Oakeshott type XIa would fit the bill and fit my longer arms and taller body a bit better than the XIV. Maybe a bit shorter than the average 30" (29"? 28"?) to keep that stabby, good-in-the-wilderness length. Or really, maybe stick with the XIV? Don’t fix what ain’t broke.