rethinking the rangers weapons

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DavidMc,

I agree with you completely I often describe the spear as being the forerunner of the battle rifle, with the sword being the fore runner of the combat handgun. I think people tend overlook the fact that
these weapons are/were part of a complete weapons system designed around getting a combatant through a very up close and personal fight.
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I agree with the spear thing I was thinking of a longer spear where you want to be able to move freely with a big radius. I would most def take a spear or two to battle with me.
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on the original subject of protecting your sword from rust;
please forgive my ignorance here, but since your not dealing with a utilitarian blade (i.e. wont receive wear from daily cutting tasks), my first thought was why not use wax?
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doghsin wrote:on the original subject of protecting your sword from rust;
please forgive my ignorance here, but since your not dealing with a utilitarian blade (i.e. wont receive wear from daily cutting tasks), my first thought was why not use wax?
My two cents.
There are some machinists waxes that resemble medieval versions. The thing I guess is that in the heat it reaches liquid state and makes a sticky mess since anything medieval was based on parafin or bees wax. Also, a warrior takes pride in his weapons, and pulling a sword thats covered in gunk and goo isn't very impressive. Not to mention waxes of older origin can go bad in the heat, and collect lots of pigy-back things like dust, dirt, grime, etc. I imagine a well dirtied wax could end up working like a soft abrasive. That's might not be good.
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Waxed blades have a tendency to grab not cut, so not only can you foul your scabbard and accumulate all sorts of dust, lint and dirt in the wax, it won't cut as cleanly. Waxes are great for display not not so much for users or a sword being kept in a scabbard.
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you guys sure seem to know your stuff.
guess i was thinking more along the lines of a very lightly applied and highly buffed beeswax furniture polish, where it gives a very slick and glossy surface. but since ive never done it, it was just a theory. still, i might experiment with different recipes/ techniques when i get back to civilization. mentally, i cant fathom it not working.lol
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wax is ok for a pole arm ( on the wood) or a bow. but i still would go for a light oil both in the scabbard and on the blade. i have kept an oily cloth for the purpose of wiping down my blade.
I'm going to disagree with this. We often, today, view the spear as a primitive, unwieldy, poor man's weapon. The truth of the matter is, it is one of the most effective (and therefore ubiquitous) weapons ever made. The spear was as much for the "scrum" as it was for the fringes, and you wouldn't want to run into the fray being the only person without one.
as far as spears go. well the vikings did write just as many keenings about them as they did swords. a spear is nothing to snease at. mmm pointy sharpy goodness. :P
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