Ive also come in possesion of an old 1800s dog(yes, dog)fur pelt. It is heavy and reaches down to my knees.
It is similar to this one:
Does Tolkien ever mention fur jackets?
A kit including this kind of thing would be fascinating to see and I'm going to quote Taurinor when I say "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, so just because there’s no mention of something doesn’t necessarily mean it isn't there"Darnokthemage wrote:As im from Northern sweden i have access to some sleighs from the 1800s, and my family happen to have horses. So ive been thinking about sleighs in Middle Earth, are they mentioned anywhere? I can't seem to remember any, but you people maybe know?
Nice analysis, it sounds very plausible for the traveling trader, something like this would make for an interesting personaDarnokthemage wrote:I would say that it is likely that the Dalesmen used them, as dale and northern sweden have a lot in common.
The sleigh would be a useful and practical asset for all dalish homeasteaders. It is most likely used for going to dale in the winter months, to sell the summer and fall produce, such as furs, barley and butter. With a strong horse you can take wmthe family with you, and still have space for tools, cloth or toys that is bought there.
The usage of this type of clothing was to keep warm on long journies on sleigh or sled, maybe to sell charcoal to dwarven merchants, or timber to the shipcrafters in Esgaroth.
It was usually worn (in real life) with a knitted or woven belt, broad and wrapped in an X on the chest.
an impressive war trophy indeedDarnokthemage wrote:In a middle earth setting the dog-fur coat is likely made from warg fur, maybe made after the battle of five armies?
The lack of fur coats and jackets in medieval Europe (especially the High Middle Ages in England and I think France) in in part due to sumptuary laws and Forest law. Only certain people were allowed to wear certain furs by law. I wouldn't expect that to be the case in Middle-earth, and some folks on the forum (I think Greg and Elleth, but I can't find the threads at the moment) have suggested that leather would be a more commonly used resource among the Dunedain, clothing and gear-wise, than it would have been among medieval Europeans. It's definitely a read-between-the-lines sort of interpretation, though; compelling and well thought out, but not something where we can point to clear examples in the text.Darnokthemage wrote:Hmm, yeah i was hoping there was more. The lack of fur coats and jackets in medieval europe is also interesting. Might seem to have carried over to middle earth...
Just as a note, that is a line of logic meant to be used extremely sparingly - it turns into "orcs carried automatic firearms because Tolkien didn't say they didn't" really quite quickly (see the Uzi Rule). Not to say that it's not appropriate here, but it's something to be careful with.Iodo wrote:A kit including this kind of thing would be fascinating to see and I'm going to quote Taurinor when I say "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, so just because there’s no mention of something doesn’t necessarily mean it isn't there"
that's a good point I didn't think to add, thanksTaurinor wrote:Just as a note, that is a line of logic meant to be used extremely sparingly - it turns into "orcs carried automatic firearms because Tolkien didn't say they didn't" really quite quickly (see the Uzi Rule). Not to say that it's not appropriate here, but it's something to be careful with.Iodo wrote:A kit including this kind of thing would be fascinating to see and I'm going to quote Taurinor when I say "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, so just because there’s no mention of something doesn’t necessarily mean it isn't there"
lolDarnokthemage wrote:Orc machine guns? I thought that was for the Numenoreans only...
I love the detail you have put into the sleigh Darnokthemage! Especially the image of Smaug and Erebor! Your sled screams Swedish/Saami aesthetics and I love it!Darnokthemage wrote:
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Took the time to draw a dalish farmer going on a trading journey to Dale. The horse is a bit weird. I dont have a sleigh like this, as this one is a fantasy creation.