Boiled leather armor

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Arbellason
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Re: Boiled leather armor

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Boiled leather 1' thick still does not stop an English warbow :mrgreen:
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1" thick boiled leather?
That is mighty thick, even if you're layering!
It might slow it down a bit! Or stop it and you go flying back 6' from the concussion. :wink:
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Yeah 1' thick leather I'll find the link to the video of the people who did it note it didn't get very far past the leather.
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OK well that explains alot!
The boiled leather is only 1/4 inch thick not 1 inch and they are using bows with a pretty good pull from the looks of it at only 15 yards.

Not the armor thickness that should have been protecting anyone who was invested in using leather. (though I am sure many could not afford better and may have settled for that verses nothing but cloth)

The use of a warbow of this size and stregnth would have more oft than not been a good deal more than 15 yards (thats were we start the kids normally) and the whole purpose of the many archers with powerful bows was to strike from a farther distance.

Still there is no arguing the fact that the English warbow could in the right situation punch through leather and steel and chain and slow running Rhinocerous with little dificulty. :mrgreen:
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There still is that one account of an arrow going through the guy's steel plate on his leg then through his jerkin the through his saddle then killing the horse. Now wouldn't you hate to be him.
I must have did my math wrong with the thickness of the leather :lol:
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A good war bow of the time was capable of punching through steel plate (since the steel was not the quality we think of today) using a bodkin point at 100-200 yard range. If an archer lets a opposing warrior get within 15 yards, he needs to transition to his secondary because the fight is about to go to hand strokes.

There are some examples in the east of leather used as primary armor. In Western Europe, there is precious little actual examples though there is some anecdotal evidence. Most of the known cuirbolli is believed to have been used in tournaments with rebated steel or blunt weapons.
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