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canvas / cowboy style bedrolls

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:40 am
by Arathen123
well i have been doing a bit of browsing and looking at horse stuff (like saddle bags) and i found some pretty cool canvas bed rolls for attatching them to your horse. as my mumhas just aquiered a horse i thought i shout get some period things for it.but all the cowboy style bedrolls i have seen are very pricy and so i was wondering if anyone here has any patterns or ideas on how to make one.plus and cheep canvas suppliers. cheers :)

Re: canvas / cowboy style bedrolls

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:25 am
by Arathen123
also if any one has a bed roll please post some pictures?

Re: canvas / cowboy style bedrolls

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:06 am
by man_of_tanith
A bedroll is effectively a canvas sheet folded in half and sewn so only one end is open,
should be reasonably easy to knock one up i would of thought.
you can get very creative and add a bit to hang over head and a layer to add insulation material

canvas can be a swine to sew by hand, maybe a good sewing machine is worth investigating.

i use a Czech army surplus bedroll sometimes. it works well with an extra blanket in it but i have no photos sorry

Re: canvas / cowboy style bedrolls

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 10:17 am
by Peter Remling
For a cheap supply of canvas, buy a canvas painters dropcloth. They come in a variety of sizes, but a 9x12' is more than adequate. I folded it in appxly 1/3s, stitched at the bottom edge to the first complete foldover. This left me a tube-like canvas with a flap. The tube area you can fill with a blanket or leaves/grasses and this will insulate you from the ground. Another blanket could be wrapped or lain over the individual and the third section or flap is then draped over the individual.

This will leave the 2/3s tube-like section under the person, then a blanket or not depending on temperature and the 3rd section over the blanket/individual. Another thing about dropcloths is they are generally treated to be water resistant already. If you're a stickler for authantisity, you'll have to wash the canvas several times to remove the treatment and then applied a more period treatment.


There is a least one pic of mine somewhere on the forum. I'm off to work so I'll have to find it this evening when I return.

Re: canvas / cowboy style bedrolls

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:22 pm
by BrianGrubbs
Peter Remling wrote:For a cheap supply of canvas, buy a canvas painters dropcloth. They come in a variety of sizes, but a 9x12' is more than adequate. I folded it in appxly 1/3s, stitched at the bottom edge to the first complete foldover. This left me a tube-like canvas with a flap. The tube area you can fill with a blanket or leaves/grasses and this will insulate you from the ground. Another blanket could be wrapped or lain over the individual and the third section or flap is then draped over the individual.

This will leave the 2/3s tube-like section under the person, then a blanket or not depending on temperature and the 3rd section over the blanket/individual. Another thing about dropcloths is they are generally treated to be water resistant already. If you're a stickler for authantisity, you'll have to wash the canvas several times to remove the treatment and then applied a more period treatment.


There is a least one pic of mine somewhere on the forum. I'm off to work so I'll have to find it this evening when I return.
Here's the thread. It's a great thread in general, and the pictures Peter's talking about on on the first page.
http://www.ranger.budgetauthenticity.or ... it=bedroll

Brian

Re: canvas / cowboy style bedrolls

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 2:48 pm
by wulfgar
Peter Remling wrote:For a cheap supply of canvas, buy a canvas painters dropcloth. They come in a variety of sizes, but a 9x12' is more than adequate. I folded it in appxly 1/3s, stitched at the bottom edge to the first complete foldover. This left me a tube-like canvas with a flap. The tube area you can fill with a blanket or leaves/grasses and this will insulate you from the ground. Another blanket could be wrapped or lain over the individual and the third section or flap is then draped over the individual.

This will leave the 2/3s tube-like section under the person, then a blanket or not depending on temperature and the 3rd section over the blanket/individual. Another thing about dropcloths is they are generally treated to be water resistant already. If you're a stickler for authantisity, you'll have to wash the canvas several times to remove the treatment and then applied a more period treatment.


There is a least one pic of mine somewhere on the forum. I'm off to work so I'll have to find it this evening when I return.
Be very picky when looking at those drop cloths. I have bought some that were very fine canvas with a tight weave, and I have bought others that still leaked like a sieve even after hot washing, drying and painting.

Re: canvas / cowboy style bedrolls

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:01 am
by Arathen123
brillianr cheers every one. i have heard about these dropcloths before they sound gpod are they cheaper than a canvas tarp?? where can you get good quality ones? i have come up with a cool design i will post some pictures up soon when i am free.i used a fleec sort of matirial to mqke the mockup it works well but canvas would be preferable. i have also designed a good tent design using a normal plastic tarp. i know plastic is mot period but if these drop cloths are good i will invest in a good one for tge tent as well.i will post puctures soon.

Re: canvas / cowboy style bedrolls

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:48 am
by Peter Remling
Tarp or dropcloth, either will work fine. Tarps, in most cases, will have grommeted edges, which will make conversion to a tent/shelter easier. You can just cover the metal grommets with a strip of leather folded over and stitched on.

Look for a heavy weight and if you get it in a natural color, you can dye or paint it once the water resistant treatment is washed out.

Re: canvas / cowboy style bedrolls

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:47 pm
by wulfgar
http://www.chicagocanvas.com/canvas-tar ... comp439437

This place has some really good prices on finished canvas tarps, although 16oz. is a little heavy to carry on your back. These are perfect for static camps, like a base camp that you hike out of or SCA type camping.