Dunedain Star Brooch...

[Peter Remling]

You should have gotten your manual with your "Welcome to Middle Earth" package, that was sent to you, when you became a member. If you need an additional copy just send me the $40 + $9.95 S&H and I'll have it sent out immediately.




Please don't send money it is a joke, otherwise the next time you see my picture it will be on a wanted poster.

[dwayne davis]

Ouch, hehe
pretty good idea though, perhaps we can come up with a middle earth starter pack. lol

[Gareth]

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[David]

We have one. It's called Lord of the Rings.

Touche salesman!

[Greg]

We have one. It's called Lord of the Rings.

Touche salesman!

ZIIING!

[dwayne davis]

but wait ..... if you act now i'll throw in this handy dany orc nail trimmer at no additional cots

[Willrett]

I found this pendant and it got me thinking (smell the smoke anyone ) what if started with this design and instead of the arrow points made them oak leaf'sesez
http://www.darkknightarmoury.com/p-2840 ... ndant.aspx

[David]

I found this pendant and it got me thinking (smell the smoke anyone ) what if started with this design and instead of the arrow points made them oak leaves
http://www.darkknightarmoury.com/p-2840 ... ndant.aspx

They would also be arrow points as well, so then it wouldn't be as bulky.

[Faolan]

In some further research I've found, the Star of Elendil IS an 5-pointed star. . . .

and are the original oval images still available somewhere? The link to "kits" in the very first post is broken.

[Ernildir]

Hello,

I realize this thread has been dead for about a year, but I have read many statements that the star has five rays. I have been of the understanding that it has six rays, according to Tolkien's index at the end of The Lord of the Rings. I have nothing against different interpretations, or five rayed stars or eight rayed stars or however many rays anyone wants, but I would appreciate some input on whether or not I have misinterpreted this passage.

"Star, as emblem: (1) Star of the House of Feanor; (2) Star of Elendil, the Elendilmir, as Emblem of the North Kingdom; (3) Seven stars (above a crown and anvil), Emblems of Durin; (4) Seven stars, of Elendil and his captains. (1) and (3) had eight rays; (2) and (4) had six."

This index passage seems to indicate that the stars of Feanor and Durin had eight rays, while the stars of Elendil and the North Kingdom had six. Am I missing something, or has Tolkien given a contradictory statement elsewhere that indicates five rays?

Thanks.

[Mirimaran]

I'd have to re-research the issue, but I think that Arnor had a five pointed star, so that was a symbol of the Royal House. Numenor was shaped like a 5 pointed star. For Tolkien to state that the brooch was a multi-rayed star means to me it was more than 5. I could be wrong

[Ernildir]

I vote for six rays.

[Sam]

This site demonstrates that the emblem of Elendil was seven five pointed stars, and the star of Elendil was an eight pointed star. It also states that "The device of Arnor was simple five-pointed star on sable square."

Whether any of that is accurate or not is another question.

[Faolan]

That site is mostly an RPG reference based on the MERP books, although the heraldic designs (at least the top ones) are actual drawings done by the Professor himself. The lower designs may be drawings done by the website creators, but they are good interpretations.

I'm beginning to lean toward the eight-rayed pattern myself, still like to do something in precious metal clay but funds are limited at the moment.

Faolan

[kaelln]

I like the eight-rayed star bound by a circle myself. It's often called a "compass rose" as it relates to the eight directions, and thus to finding your way and orienting yourself in your environment. In some spiritual traditions, it also refers to the passing of the seasons, and in this context is referred to as the "wheel of the year", with certain natural and agricultural and cultural activities pegged to each of the directions. Ship's wheels are frequently eight rays bound by a circle, although they are also sometimes six-rayed, and so symbolically it is also "steering your way through the ocean of life". Lots of symbolism there, all of which is relevant to Rangering. Just my opinion though, YMMV!