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Re: Middle-Earth Tool Roll

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 8:28 pm
by Greg
Gosh, it's been over a year. Aren't I a slacker?

Finally filled her up. I'm in the process of making a replacement awl with a turned handle and a narrower point for finer work, and there's supposed to be a second, finer grade sharpening stone but that one just cracked in half so a replacement is forthcoming. Other than that, here she is.
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From left to right:
Scissors, needle(s), thread winder with four different threads in various colors, materials, and weights, beeswax candle for emergency or writing light and various waxing purposes (including sewing), and stitching awl.
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Dunedain star, soon to be upgraded, pinned in place when not openly worn, [missing jasper stone], Arkansas stone, BWT copper oiler full of Salt (Taurinor, I found a safer home for the antler one...it has seasonings in it with my cast iron camp ware).
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Bristle pot scrubber, coal tongs for smoking, and my spoon.
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If it seems like "not much", you're right. That's the point. Other than this, I have a pot, a cup, a pipe+leaf, blades and bow+arrows, fire kit, blanket+tarp, water bottle, dry goods, blade oil, coins, soap, and clothing. I challenge you (in a friendly way, of course!) to find something I'm missing. Something I can't live without that I've neglected. If there's something big, I'd rather know now! As it stands, this whole shebang rolls up to the length and breadth of my hand, and slips right cozily into my Snapsack.

Re: Middle-Earth Tool Roll

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:22 am
by Ursus
Nice to see this concept brought to completion! I am a total nerd for anything that condenses a pack. Am I correct in seeing that the body is made of oilcloth with what I’m guessing is walnut dyed linen for the interior?

Re: Middle-Earth Tool Roll

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:46 am
by Greg
Oilcloth and Natural linen, yes. The first page detailed it a fair bit, but last I looked the pics had died, so that may not be of much help.

Re: Middle-Earth Tool Roll

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 2:09 am
by Ursus
Derp, oh yeah that whole read the full post before you comment thing.

Re: Middle-Earth Tool Roll

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 2:37 am
by Greg
Over-rated.

Re: Middle-Earth Tool Roll

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 8:05 am
by Iodo
That tool roll, that's just brilliant :mrgreen:

Re: Middle-Earth Tool Roll

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 1:31 pm
by Elleth
Awesome!

I imagine you've narrowed it down based on what you actually use, so I bet any ideas we have you can say "nope, not needed it yet." :)

.... but string for lashing things or boot dubbin?

Re: Middle-Earth Tool Roll

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 10:38 pm
by Greg
Hand-braided hemp cordage is found holding the tool roll closed (though it can be stowed without), as well as two or three additional lengths of the same tied on the blanket roll. All intended for use as shelter tie-downs, but useful for various tasks. There's also a brand new eight foot(!) piece of heavier hand-braided hemp rope (all 4-strand, btw) in a hank in the snapsack.

The thing about dubbin and various forms of waterproofing grease, is that it lasts plenty long enough to not necessarily need to be applied in the field. Good grease, like lanolins, beeswax, tallow, and blends, last for weeks of hard use.

Re: Middle-Earth Tool Roll

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 1:47 pm
by Elleth
Hey Greg - I've been thinking I'd like to give this idea a proper try. Would you mind sharing dimensions and current contents?

.... and is there anything you'd change were you to do it over?

Re: Middle-Earth Tool Roll

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 3:19 pm
by Greg
Honestly...I've been carrying it for three years filled just as is and haven't changed a thing. The top flaps are intended to fold in and over the contents to help seal it off. It could probably stand to have some built-in ties to hold it closed, but I haven't stitched anything on...I'm still just tying it closed with a length of hemp cordage I braided that gets used to tie shelter parts together or other such temporary camp stuffs. There is a second honing stone next to the first that's pictured above...one coarser, one fine.

I definitely made the RIGHT call by putting the scissors on the very end; they're wider than the rest of it and wouldn't roll up well. I anticipated this and put them on the end that winds up on the outside of the roll so the little bit of 'lumpy' doesn't mess up the whole roll. If I could bend the handle loops a bit narrower it'd help, but it's never been a problem.

I'll get some dimensions tonight when I get home. *fingers crossed*

Re: Middle-Earth Tool Roll

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 4:24 pm
by Turgolanas
This is brilliant - I am definitely going to be adding something similar to my kit (and my list of things to sew grows). Question: from what I understand this is completely linen, but what would you think about making the outer roll waterproofed suede leather? I happen to have better access to cheap suede than linen atm.

Re: Middle-Earth Tool Roll

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 4:48 pm
by Iodo
Turgolanas wrote: Fri Dec 17, 2021 4:24 pm Question: from what I understand this is completely linen, but what would you think about making the outer roll waterproofed suede leather? I happen to have better access to cheap suede than linen atm.
I can't see why that wouldn't work, I think the outer roll on Greg's is waxed, suede would just be heaver and harder to sew

Re: Middle-Earth Tool Roll

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 5:22 pm
by ForgeCorvus
Turgolanas wrote: Fri Dec 17, 2021 4:24 pm This is brilliant - I am definitely going to be adding something similar to my kit (and my list of things to sew grows). Question: from what I understand this is completely linen, but what would you think about making the outer roll waterproofed suede leather? I happen to have better access to cheap suede than linen atm.
Its your kit mate, use what you've got available.... As would of been done in Period (any Period)

Remember, uniform equipment is a product of a late industrial culture. I Re-enact Napoleonic and even with Government contracts the kit varied wildly.

Sewing suede is easier with a Glover's needle (otherwise known as a Bayonet needle), it has a short triangular section at the pointed end that cuts its way through the leather (try really hard not to stab yourself, I think they're worse then a regular point.... And they bleed like b-gg--s ).


I've a few favourite bush tools, so I might jump on this band-wagon.
Anyone use a crook knife?

Re: Middle-Earth Tool Roll

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 6:29 pm
by Elleth
I think they're worse then a regular point.... And they bleed like b-gg--s
"OW! These things for cutting and punching animal skin keep cutting and punching my skin!"

... the life of leathercrafters throughout all time. :mrgreen:

Re: Middle-Earth Tool Roll

Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 7:42 pm
by Iodo
Elleth wrote: Fri Dec 17, 2021 6:29 pm
I think they're worse then a regular point.... And they bleed like b-gg--s
"OW! These things for cutting and punching animal skin keep cutting and punching my skin!"

... the life of leathercrafters throughout all time. :mrgreen:
I get this :oops: