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Light Source.

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 4:01 pm
by Tom_Ranger
It's been a spell since I read the Tolken books but I don't recall much discussion if any about light sources other than a fire, torch, or Gandalf's staff as he used in the films. But I came across another video about light sources in the ages past and I'm wondering if anybody in the forums or LARPs have put any real thought into it being authentic. Here is the video I came across.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1U666xoaX8

Re: Light Source.

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 4:50 pm
by Greg
Candles are discussed pretty consistently, and 'Rushlight' is both a historical method for lighting as well as a last name in the Breelands, suggesting at its use, so there's a few options.

Re: Light Source.

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2023 2:19 am
by redhandfilms
Lanterns are mentioned about 30 times in the books (quick word search). I specifically remember lanterns on farmer Maggot’s wagons and the lampwrights in Minas Tirath.
The biggest issue for me is I couldn’t find any reference to what kind of fuel is used in the lanterns. There are obviously candles and any society with candles would have some form of candle lanterns. It’s literally just something around a candle to protect it from wind.
I have not been able to find any reference to oil or alcohol being used in lanterns but they are possible. Denathor’s pyre at least proves oil was known to be flammable, but did they use it for lighting?
They certainly had alcohol in beer and wine, but was it ever distilled enough to spirits that would burn? I know that the distillation process first creates toxic methyl alcohol before the good stuff. A Gondorian whiskey company could collect the methyl first to sell as lantern fuel. Just speculation here.

Personally, I would go with a rustic candle lantern. A box candle tin would be appropriate and small and lightweight. One like this, https://www.townsends.us/collections/la ... 278-p-1556
but don’t spend $75, that’s a bit outrageous.

For diy, look at a rawhide lantern like these from Cimbrer.
https://youtu.be/TgvYKn6zjVE

Re: Light Source.

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2023 4:11 am
by Cimrandir
Frankly, even in modern-day style camping I don't need much light after dark aside from the campfire. Then again, I like sleep so I prep my things before sundown and then head to bed early. I wouldn't even worry about having a smaller light source as in my opinion it's probably more trouble than it's worth. If needs must, candles with a tin would probably work the best.

Re: Light Source.

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 12:18 pm
by Eofor
Cimrandir wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 4:11 am If needs must, candles with a tin would probably work the best.
I carry a couple in the event of needing to mend or repair gear. The firelight just isn't concentrated enough.

Re: Light Source.

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 2:49 pm
by Turgolanas
I carry a folding lantern, as well as a number of small short candles. The folding lantern doesn't put out a ton of light, but it is better than nothing, especially in windy areas. The short candles are great for an easy to get to light source, or for starting fires in wet areas - I need to get more, now that I used some for that purpose. I do cheat and use a small lighter to light the candles, I haven't figured out how to do it without a match or lighter.

I also have a number of non-folding lanterns for a more permanent camp, they work very well for lighting where tents are, or showing a path. Also, using a lantern for light late at night is just fun in my opinion lol.

Re: Light Source.

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2023 3:31 pm
by Cimrandir
Eofor wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 12:18 pm
Cimrandir wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 4:11 am If needs must, candles with a tin would probably work the best.
I carry a couple in the event of needing to mend or repair gear. The firelight just isn't concentrated enough.
Fair enough. My eyes are bad enough that a candle still isn’t going to do much so I usually call it quits with the hiking early enough that I still have daylight to work with if I need to repair something.